No argument there, indeed. 👍

Oh I understand the internet, which is why in my original question, I stated it was honest and serious. I also read the OPs response, re-evaluated my position and replied back in a serious and thoughtful manner. The rest of the peanut gallery though is another issue entirely, BUD.

It was a condescending reply, look at the way it's phrased, every reply has been quite condescending and borderline rude.

Ok, you act like I should have a personal copy of this on hand before knowing it existed? Also, it's not a scientific white paper, so I'd say it's more of an opinion piece, even if I agree with said opinion.

I had that, pretty good game actually.

Ok, only on my 2nd cup of coffee, so brain is still not 100%, true, toxic masculinity is caused by the patriarchy, then again, some ppl are just terrible. But it's not like millions of guys don't ride motorcycles, drive miatas, mr2s and in the day, fieros.

Toxic masculinity is an issue yes. The car shown literally exists though, and you can buy it and drive it...

Ok, that's toxic masculinity, not patriarchy

Ok, serious & honest question, how is this to do with the patriarchy?

Yeah, you're not wrong on any of that, rebuilding the following and such is really the only thing keeping me there for now