Like Grima Wormtongue did to Theodin

Grima Wormtongue.

THEODEN: Wormtongue is in our sights. Take the shot! ARAGORN: I can’t, your Majesty! I’m Woke! ME (watching through palantir): Hes woke! He wont do it!

JOE ROGAN: but this Saruman guy's a wizard, so I don't really know what the problem was. GRIMA WORMTONGUE: It's cansssssssel culture, my leige. JOE ROGAN: (nodding absently) The Woke Gondorians.

Distancing myself from grima wormtongue

If you're grima wormtongue it's on sight

I don't care for this grima wormtongue guy

who's grima wormtongue

The deplatforming of Grima Wormtongue

I saw more of a Gollum look than a conniving Wormtongue, but you might be onto something here