I had to look up whether ‘Investors In People’* was still even a thing, I assumed that it had been quietly forgotten…! (*Govt-owned ‘til 2017, privatised - natch - after that, but still in operation). Important principle - people really matter. Haven’t watched the podcast yet btw but will do, obvs.

It was a very tick-box, disingenuous approach from my experience of it. In my company the annual staff climate survey was a key metric. What did they do? Link staff bonus to good climate survey result!