Sure seems like that's the argument you're trying to make. That they shouldn't be seen as responsible in anyway for their own fate?
Responsibility when that danger appears and they die. Were they victims? Yes you are right and OP is wrong there. Were they faultless? No. Were they partly responsible for putting themselves into the circumstances they faced? Yes.
No I interjected in a conversation between two people holding extreme positions. You immediately insinuated that OP was being antisemitic and tried to force most comments into that framework. I was pointing out that OP had a point that people putting themselves in danger have a measure of (cont)
Because you don't fucking listen to the words that people are saying. I can only assume that is a trend in your life. If a patient came in and said they were stabbed when they were hanging out outside of a biker bar would you say that they share no responsibility for choosing to be there?
What? Of course they were victims, they are the ones who died? The people ultimately responsible for their deaths are the ones who pulled the trigger and actively killed them be it IDF or Hamas. But that isn't the limit of responsibility.
FFS I AM saying exactly what I mean you're the one trying to force words into my mouth. God you must be a shitty physician if you even are one. Actually listen to people when they speak and not what you want them to say.
Where did I say that? Please quote where I said that their deaths were just. I'm saying that they made choices which put them in an area which had known dangers. If they had chosen to go somewhere else they would not have been in danger.
Then say what you mean. Stop speaking in allusions and trying to give gotcha questions. Stop being a fucking child and just say what you mean
You are equating the arguments that I am making with the arguments of someone else. Stop. I am saying that while all loss of life is tragic, the music festival was held in a bad location and thus the organizers and yes the victims too should be seen as responsible in part for what happened.