What I said was that it was a bad idea to hold the festival so close. If you choose to hold an event in a location where there are known dangers then yes you shoulder some of the responsibility for what happens.

What was the very first thing I said in my post in this chain? Stop fucking saying that I'm making arguments that I'm not.

Then don't fucking say that I said something that I didn't.

That isn't what we are discussing. Please stay on topic

As I said previously, it was within sight of the Gaza barrier. Approx 5km. Not 8, not 10, not 30km. There is a difference between being in the general proximity of something and being within sight of it.

Where did I justify murder? Please show me in what I wrote where I said it was just. Don't put words in my mouth.

Having a full barrier means that they can't do those things and also means that there is no forgiveness when they try. They dislike them because they damage their cars... When they try to use the space that is dedicated to cyclists

So you see you're a good and reasonable person which is where the disconnect is. Many drivers want to "own" the entire road. A concrete barrier completely blocks off the bike lane. Plastic and paint means a car can occupy that space when desired for parking, deliveries, etc. (cont)

Any loss of life is tragic. Holding a festival within sight of what amounts to a concentration camp is a bad idea though. If organizers hadn't made that choice then it's likely all of those civilians would be alive today. There is plenty of fault to go around.