On the NIMBYs, we have an acute housing shortage in WA, but we're also concerned for our forested suburban backdrop. I argued that we need high density, mixed use development in our urban villages - 5 stories would be ideal. The over 60s were aghast. "It would ruin the character of the Hills!"

These are the same people who are opposing a destructive suburban development in a forested area for very good reasons but refer to 2.5 homes per hectare as "High density". We can easily accommodate 1000 homes in our existing townsites with 3-5 story units. But the character!!