I’ve a couple of their boxes I’ve gone from beginner to intermediate and sort of plateaued there -as they’ve sat gathering dust while I focus on more important keep my family sorted tasks. But I’ve heard horror stories about the Oct as learning curve

My issue with OT that I haven’t have so much with the MD/MnM/A4/Rytm/Digitone/Digitakt/Model:Cycles is that unless you use it almost daily, you easily forget the workflow. It may just be my rubbish brain