Ugh. That's rude. Maybe someone in WA state is doing something similar. It might still be worth a call to find out. Or I can email Del and ask for you. No pressure, though.

Yeah, sounds like a really rough argument. I'm so sorry you went through that.

If you want, you can call Portland Mental Health and Wellness. They have the self-compassion classes I took. Del, the leader, is AMAZING and they're having a new class in the new year. Maybe they'll take WA insurance. I don't know. It helped me, at least.

Out of curiosity, do you think that having national healthcare requires a level of denying disabled people entry? Or is it just something that happens? Put another way: Is it correlation, or causation? Does it make national healthcare bad?

Okay, so that wasn't super productive either. But I get being frustrated. You're still not a bad person. And maybe you were just bringing out the worst in each other in the moment? Forgive me, I've taken a LOT of self-compassion therapy.

Oh, I hear you on that one. I take so many meds to stay healthy, between my autoimmune disease and my terrible mental health. A lot of countries won't take people with certain health conditions.

Wow, it sounds like he took an "agree to disagree" moment and turned it into a "you're a bad person" moment. Rude.

Okay, I see what you're saying. It's okay that he thinks differently. He probably thinks differently than I do. We can't really apply our moral code to people who don't believe in it, don't you think? It's like why Christians shouldn't make laws governing everyone (not that you're doing that.)

Totally. Like, I'm disabled and my wife does admin at a small community college. We live paycheck-to-paycheck. We've definitely thought about immigrating for political reasons, but we can't afford to.

I definitely disagree with that, but I respect your point! You're a fascinating person to talk to, and I really like the way you make me think around new sides to an issue.