walz is a bad debater and vance is a smarmy liar, that’s my take

Yup

I don’t know, Walz seems fine, like a normal guy and JD seems like a weird creep trying to spin everything.

Having seen other extemporaneous talks by Walz, where he comes off as smart, well informed, charismatic, likeable, and charming, I was shocked at how poorly he did. Vance is such a thin skinned creep, and would have been so easy to trigger. What happened?

Vance is purposely deceptive, which makes him a textbook sociopath. But his answer on public healthy and “children’s drugs made by our enemies” was plainly psychopathic. He has no right being a public servant.

Vance has pence’s talk show host gift of saying a lot of bullshit in a smoothly fashion. Midlist news anchors aren’t capable of combatting it.

Vance debates like a politician, Walz like a 80s sitcom dad.

Walz is doing alright. Vance is slippery. Very slippery.

Yeah. And low information voters are not going to know that Vance is lying about everything. And the media won't cover it like that.

I don’t think he’s bad, I think he’s overthinking it. Vance can’t get a truth out there, Walz can but is worried to not make a wrong step. You can see him shine in these questions but you have to give him time.

Just as you predicted. I think Walz could be doing worse, and Vance is going to suffer in post debate analysis, but this is infuriating to watch.