Judge Chutkan: I actually dont think so. SCOTUS ruled on 3 categories. Certainly VP conversations may be subject to presumptive immunity. But i have to decide if those conversations are somehow outside his official duties. Lauro: I ask you to re-review that opinion. ... (via Roger Parloff)

Judge Chutkan: I'm not sure that's my reading of the SCOTUS ruling. But it's subject to a lot of different readings. Trump attorney Lauro: it's a legal decision we can provide guidance to the court without full evidentiary hearing. We get opportunity to go first under Rule 12. (via Roger Parloff)