Anyway I am charmed by the childlike naïveté of anyone who thinks that Trump relentlessly lying would matter to anyone capable of voting for Trump.

It's all about people's enthusiasm to GOTV. This debate didn't help. It's up to us to hammer enthusiasm into progressives who want to protect civil rights. There's only one choice. VOTE!!!

I’m fucking tired all the time and I’m not the leader of the free world, give the man a break

I am very annoyed that the media is loudly stating that Trump's relentless lying is not something they care about.

My dear Popehat, Trump is a figure of speech to MAGA. Do NOT underestimate his platform.

Agreed. People screaming that all the press has to do is point out how bad Trump's statements are and everyone will turn from him must have been living in a cave since 2015. His supporters love that about him, and Biden haters don't prioritize it as a reason not to vote for him.

What was the point for Biden of agreeing to this “debate”? Trump was only ever going to lie. CNN’s pregame included a guy saying that Biden hadn’t fulfilled his promise to unify the country. Which, to be fair, was an astonishingly stupid goal. JoBi should have stuck to the realistic stuff

Indeed, I am well aware from childhood how cruel and selfish Americans can actually be. Lying, cheating each other, and bullying are second nature to many. They vote Trump because he is the quintessential American, cruel and contemptuous of others, like them.

Trump's biggest mistake this debate, ironically, is being unwilling to make a simple, one-sentence lie in response to "will you respect the election results" instead of going on a long series of incoherent rants.

I'm still not sure why anyone thought CNN would competently moderate a debate. Although I doubt any major media outlet can properly moderate a debate with convicted felon Donald Trump.

yes, exactly. That is the main point.