in the end that's just another reason it's a useless / needlessly confusing term, no? like what's the steelman for believing this & also still using the term with abandon, making tpot feeds, etc.?

Heh, was responding no to something else. I’m good with people using whatever terms to coalesce that they choose, outside of being threatening/harmful to others. Even if they also mock those terms, maybe especially if they do.

believing what?