I can’t stand either of these guys and can’t stand them being fake nice to each other. I hate Vance more (than most people alive today), of course, but watching Walz constantly insist this dangerous man is coming from a good place is aggravating and it’s the opposite of what was needed.

This guy is the cause of a bunch of bomb threats at hospitals and schools. Walz should have tied that to Jan 6, said that’s the chaos and instability you get from these guys, and btw, at long last, have you no fucking shame, dude?

democrats just so desperately, desperately want republicans to return to a "sanity" they never had, so they can all join together and bipartisanly fuck us over like they used to do. but republicans don't want that. they just want the actual third reich.

It’s like the party immediately repudiated the energy of the DNC and just went with standard Dem zero personality milquetoastery.

TIM NEEDS TO STOP GOING HIGH.

It’s just extremely bad in every way. Hard to watch

im glad this debate seems to have nothing useful and that will be the big takeaway because otherwise its way too much normalization of ghoulish republican ideas

Vance's ability to talk like a fascist and a high school debate coach at the same time is just much harder to fight than Trump's rambling