Gazans attacking a rave in 2023 were the occupied resisting occupying forces in a war that's been imposed on them for decades. Israel establishing a fake company in Hungary that sold business tools packed with explosives to Lebanese people blowing off their thumbs is state terror.

Unless people want to insist Israel doing that was legitimate war making in which case sure, I'll go along with that because now we agree this war has been going on a lot longer than 2023-2024. That's the doublethink bind pro-Israeli liberals are stuck in now.