I think it bears repeating that the actual constituency that will decide this election is a handful of people in a handful of states who are completely ambivalent about Donald Trump and either don't care terribly about democracy or don't see Trump as an existential threat to it.

The people best positioned to know who needs to be persuaded and how to convince them are working for the campaign. I don’t see any reason we should even debate the issue. There’s just not enough solid data for us to form meaningful opinions.

Talking to some People here (I'm in Italy for a week) they think he would be better for the economy! I don't know where they get their news of course, I told them it's utterly bs! But it seems people are more involved in the US elections than their own!

I will just say that given this, you’d think the centrist consultant plan would be to elevate the existential risk posed by Trump. But instead they poll, the polls say people don’t care about this and then .. the leadership doesn’t try to illustrate what’s happening and get them to care.

I think even that overstates their level of awareness and comprehension of politics. They don't understand how voting connects to outcomes in their lives. They don't know what policies are, categorically. Government is too abstract for them entirely.

If it's that close it's a loss. Election-day violence and other interference will be able to cloud the result sufficiently to let it be stolen in the courts. Only a landslide win will stick.

We wouldn’t be in this situation - election after election after election - if it weren’t for the Electoral College A relic from our founding for a reason that has *long since* lost its rationale for being But which ensures about 20% of our electorate gets to determine legislative priorities

There has to be an analysis of the point at which the number of mobilizable but unconvinced (I assume mainly mainly young) base voters exceeds the number of genuinely still undecided voters who would pay enough attention to anything to be actually reachable and roused to vote

UNLESS there's a big surge in enthusiasm from some other block of voter to swamp these "swing" votes into meaningless obscurity.... *Sigh

And those people might not even vote! It’s really going to come down to turnout, or early voting in the states that allow and treat normally.

I don't think this is actually true! Those people play a role, but a larger role is the ppl in those states who are clear about who they support - one way or the other - but might not vote for a variety of reasons (can't get off work, forgot to request absentee ballot, bad weather on election day).