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But yes, the world would be better off if there was more class solidarity at the bottom. Millionaires seems to manage it just fine, while the bottom quintiles fight like crabs in a bucket, with the upper middle class fiercely guarding their comfort at everyone's expense.

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parchment.bsky.social

I agree that, fundamentally, class is a huge driver of discrimination. Perhaps this is just framing; for me, even if class is the disease, sometimes we need to treat the symptoms as well. To someone in chronic pain, that pain isn't number 2 just because it's not the underlying cause.

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parchment.bsky.social

My point: rank ordering issues is difficult w/o context. Poverty and race are connected, but one is not easily reducible to the other. Red-lining wasn't just about poor people, it was often about poor non-white people. Class, race, and gender are all issues that must be addressed.

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parchment.bsky.social

Some of the research I've seen definitely does consider class bias. And it does change the numbers, as one might predict: poor people are disproportionately the target of policing. But so are men, and yet they don't experience across the board discrimination, it's contextual.

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I agree more black police officers won't fix anything, and I suspect that's because racism (and classism and sexism) are often systemic and institutionally reinforced. You can't replace the bad apples in the barrel if it's the barrel making the apples bad in the first place.

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parchment.bsky.social

All the research I've seen demonstrates a racial bias in traffic stops, even when class is considered. Google/Semantic Scholar have quite a collection of accessible papers addressing the issue of "driving while black".

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parchment.bsky.social

I don't think you're ignoring race, and I don't think objecting to ranking racism and class means I'm ignoring class. I think class is important. I think gender is important. I think race is important. They'll be important to different degrees depending on the context.

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Definitely closes the gap. But racism (or gender) hits in ways that wealth cannot easily erase, since wealth is not always conspicuous. Even within class there are hierarchies of power. In a nutshell: I agree with your emphasis on class, but I feel weird about ranking it in absolute terms.

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parchment.bsky.social

I don't think you're pretending racism doesn't exist, and I definitely agree that class is a hugely overlooked issue. In a lot of cases I wish we acknowledged class more! But ignoring the effects of racism on class or ignoring how racism can weaken the benefits of class is problematic as well.

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parchment.bsky.social

My point is that it's very difficult to come up with an objective ordered list of the issues in America because issues overlap/interact differently depending on context, e.g., comparing a white woman to a black man in a business environment vs being pulled over by police.

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