What's not to understand? They are fools, absolute idiots. They probably send Joel Osteen money, too.

Totally agree. Single issue and rigid ideology people are utterly clueless and easily manipulated by right wing propaganda. Divide and conquer, over and over.

Yeah, I don't get it, either. I guess this is a site for people who overthink things. That's normally my M.O., but not in this case. Walz is great and Vance is a chump.

I think we all knew about MJ long before he died. At least we did in the U.S. But your point is sound regardless.

I mean, I have never sent one, but if I sent you one and you sent me some other guy's, I would be like, "Nice dick, is it yours?" I think that would be the polite thing to say.

I think men should send each other dick pics. Among homophobic macho men it's all really a subconscious circle jerk, anyway.

You are right about that. I think the problem is that people idolize others, some of whom are lousy humans, and then those people are shown far too much respect upon death, to the point that no one ever learns from their mistakes. Saville, for example, should be remembered as a monster forever.

If their dad was a rapist, he was a rapist. I had to face realities about my dead relatives. It's part of life and part of growing older and wiser. Lying to protect reputations helps no one. Now, should we have criticized him more, earlier? Maybe so. I had forgotten he existed.

Since I spent years proudly wearing the "Liberal" badge as right wingers used it as a taunt, I am not really taking to hearing fellow lefties use it as a taunt. Can someone explain exactly why "Liberals" are wrong, or is this just another bow-down-to-the-ideology-of-the-week bullying exercise?

Have never understood the "we have to show every person respect even if they have not earned it" logic.