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Johan Schalin
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PhD, nordiska sprĂ„k, phonology, etymologi, East Norse, Finnic, lainasanatutkimus, dialektologi, diachronic linguistics, ortnamn/paikannimet, Northwest Semitic, Catalan. #langsky han/hĂ„nĂ„, hānaR/hānumR, hĂ€n/hĂ€net, he/him, ell/li & Ś”ïŹ”Ś/Śï­‹ŚȘוֹ
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IPA also offers possibilities to distinguish between protruded and compressed rounding. #langskyen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rounded...

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But still SĂĄmi borrows with affricates even later. There is a link in the PP to a paper of Aikio with examples of that.

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For what it’s worth there is also another category, which is better reconcilable with Sievers’ law: rasia ’boxlet’ < racia < *rancia (< *rantia) <- *randia > Swedish dialect rĂ€nde The word ”asia” in the PP belongs here. These could reflect later borrowings with Sievers’ law taken effect.

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The problem is the affricates in *kaććo-, *oćća, *raććas and *vićća i.e. [kattɕo] etc. It would take two steps and the intermediate step **ka(t)tjo etc. would have an impossible cluster in Middle Proto-Finnic. This phonotactic constraint explains the substitution directly with the affricate.

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It is difficult to explain this data otherwise, yes. I know this is a difficult conclusion.

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Maybe the sea was too far away from the West Uralic speech area to have its own word. ”jĂ€rvi” is possibly a loanword too kaino.kotus.fi/ses/?p=qs-ar...

jÀrvi - Suomen etymologinen sanakirja
jÀrvi - Suomen etymologinen sanakirja

jÀrvi - Suomen etymologinen sanakirja

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I was invited to give a talk on Ancient Scandinavian and earlier Germanic Loanwords in Finnic. Words like kuningas, Àiti, joulu, lammas and rengas and hundreds more like them. Here are the slides: #langskywww.researchgate.net/publication/...

(PDF) Ancient Scandinavian and earlier Germanic Loanwords in Finnic
(PDF) Ancient Scandinavian and earlier Germanic Loanwords in Finnic

PDF | Ancient Scandinavian and earlier Germanic loanwords in Finnic | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

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Finnish lammas (older *lambas/lampaza-) is borrowed from Proto-Germanic *lambaz/lambiz-).

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4. There is no continuity of “Sievers’ law” from Proto-Indo-European to Palaeo-Scandinavian 5. The precursory period of “allophonic” or “sub-phonemic” umlaut was very short. #langsky

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2bis. There must have been a few centuries between Proto-Germanic proper and runic Palaeo-Scandinavian to accommodate the Finnic (and SĂĄmi) sound changes. 3. Proto-Germanic developed from Proto-Indo-European in Scandinavia/Baltic Sea Region. (continue readingđŸ‘‡đŸ»)

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Johan Schalin
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PhD, nordiska sprĂ„k, phonology, etymologi, East Norse, Finnic, lainasanatutkimus, dialektologi, diachronic linguistics, ortnamn/paikannimet, Northwest Semitic, Catalan. #langsky han/hĂ„nĂ„, hānaR/hānumR, hĂ€n/hĂ€net, he/him, ell/li & Ś”ïŹ”Ś/Śï­‹ŚȘוֹ
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