& that is (one reason) why the classic stand over top tube height for bike frame size, is so dated. i fit stand over, torso arms too long cramped

The last two times I've bought a bike, I've called the shop ahead of time and asked them to set aside a particular size for me. They ask my height, I tell them, they're like "are you sure?!" But then I get there and they see me hop on the bike and they're like oh, this is the correct size for you 😂