Won? Never fought. Let bygones.

The nature of liberty manifested through property.

But that wasn't the North's goal. It was "thou shalt not leave me".

Your point?

I think even Scalia said that if the civil war resolved anything, it was the illegality of secession. An illiberal opinion.

Unless you've agreed to it, if to avoid fines & jail you need permission before bouncing me, you don't own your house.

It was lost but not noble to me. Go project elsewhere.

No, I mean you can kick me out of your house for sneezing.

The nature of ownership is exclusion. The one place they can't get you. Unfortunately, real ownership isn't possible.

So a bunch of us buy land, join together with adjacent lots, and formulate rules that only apply to members. You realize that's a recipe for the Feds or State to end that, right. You've effectively sanctioned a virtual secession, but they won't let that. Outsiders will control your fridge contents