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Without reading the full context around that quote, it’s a systemic problem with UK govt. Ministers with ZERO knowledge of a sector which is part of their brief. Parachuted into transport or education etc with ZERO real world experience- with catastrophic outcomes

I spent much of the first lockdown wfh as cev, but when I was working during the second lockdown, trying to convince our IP team that coughing itself was as risky as any AGP was like banging my head against a brick wall. It was common sense and it was systematically ignored.