I agree the scale + the lack of rigor will ensure that if they have the opportunity to execute the plan, a lot more than just our undocumented neighbors and family will be caught up in the detention camps.
Finally, if mass deportation was such a popular idea, why have Trump and Vance repeatedly run away from the details of their signature policy issue? Trump has had two debates & got a direct question in each about the details of mass deportation and dodged the question twice. That is quite a tell.
Nor is this the same sort of campaign bluster that we have heard from Trump before as @joshkovensky.bsky.social and others have noted this time there is a plan, an eagerness to carry it out, and little in the way of impediments.
If you talk to the experts, they’ll tell you that Trump’s plan...
Also see detailed context via @thomaszimmer.bsky.social âWhat they are planning is a purge of the nation that will not be confined to undocumented peopleâŚPropagating Great Replacement, all the way down. For the homeland to be made safe for âreal Americans,â the enemy within must be purged too.â
I revisited key moments at the Republican Convention that captured the Rightâs defining project: A blood-and-soil nationalism that yearns to cleanse the âhomeland.â Itâs a straight line from there to the mass deportation plans and the attempts to incite a pogrom in Ohio.  New piece:  đ§ľ1/
The Right is committed to an idea of America as a white Christian homeland. They are determined to purge the nation and radically redraw the boundaries of the body politic.
But family separation is just one of the horrific elements of the agenda as a must-read piece from⪠@radleybalko.bsky.social notes: âThe former president's vow to deport 15 million people is the cruelest, most illiberal, most openly authoritarian campaign promise in modern U.S. history.â
The former president's vow to deport 15 million people is the cruelest, most illiberal, most openly authoritarian campaign promise in modern U.S. history. Oh, and it would also destroy the economy.
Vance has failed to rule out that their agenda will be a massive expansion of the family separation plan. And as the key architects of the family separation under Trumpâs first admin are the ones developing the plans for mass deportation, we know where this is headed.
Some of the children who were affected by the Trump-era policy are now speaking out their experiences in a social media campaign.
It is also worth remembering here the massive backlash to Trumpâs family separation policy. This is on a massively expanded scale with family separation of long-settled American families where we will see US citizen children child wailing at the horror of being separated from their mothers.
ProPublica has obtained audio from inside a U.S. Customs and Border Protection facility, in which children can be heard wailing as an agent jokes, âWe have an orchestra here.â
The comparison shift in sentiment some have pointed to CNN poll from '16 where we can see some shift in support from Dems & Indis (see notes above) but we see a 45 point swing from Republicans on the issue, suggesting this is more about radicalization on the right then persuasion of the middle.
That notion is backed up by the data, @americasvoice.bsky.social internal polling found similar results to the Marquette University poll that found a 16-point drop in support for mass deportation with the basic details of the plan outlined in the question.
@owillis.bsky.social builds on this point, noting âi believe when american people say they back mass deportation they believe that means âthe bad peopleâ... they do not think that means the nice family around the corner who they largely think of as "the good ones."
fwiw i believe when american people say they back mass deportation they believe that means "the bad people" who "broke the law" and in their minds eye are some kind of ms-13 gang member. they do not.....