How does one even have a civil discussion with these folks supporting the Orange Jesus. I can't. It is like another world.. folks getting all their information from Fox News.

And the cynicism, sheer ignorance and naïveté shown by such as Thiel and Musk that they think America will survive this loon with them secretly in charge is also mind-blowing and would be an utter disaster.

Agreed. The man doesn’t even speak intelligible, plausible sentences. The Hannibal Lechter ‘exploits’ and public schools transgendering children are ravings of a complete lunatic.