it's the same with SCOTUS for me. the big advantage she initially had from biden from me is that she doesn't necessarily have the same obsession with 70s style bipartisanship and smokey backrooms and "we're all friends here" and "aw, decorum" because she literally wasn't around for that.

I refer to the practice as a shitty, liberal appeal to bipartisanship and decorum and reaching across the aisle. Do you think I was referring to you when I said "it"? I'm the one with the funky pronouns here, buddy. I regret to inform you that I didn't say what you are pretending I did.

i am saying civility is a richer topic than appears if we restrict ourselves to the perfectly legitimate sense of standards of decorum. in a way, i am turning from a deontological angle to one focused on virtue as strength or capacity or power, with the attendant ingredient of a telos.

the real reason we're not is because we lean overwhelmingly democratic, so the republicans don't want us to have that representation and the democrats are too obsessed with decorum and "fairness" to argue otherwise

I guess I'd just say it depends. Usually when folks talk about "norms" they mean them in the sense of political decorum and small-p small-c political conventions about how to behave, which are perhaps shocking to put aside, but aren't unlawful to. But not all norms are equally weighted

they really can only grasp trump as evil because of his lack of decorum

This shitty, liberal appeal to bipartisanship and decorum and reaching across the aisle? I hope it fucking chokes on its own blood and dies within the next decade. I hope it's gone, i hope it goes to the dustbin of history along with every other horrid thing which you consider "normal"

He walked in and surprised everyone. Also, there are different rules in the briefing room, generally. The reason he doesn't give pressers has zero to do with respect or decorum.

If I may, so Biden gave a presser today, and the Press Corp didn't stand up when he came in? That can't be the decorum you are used to? No wonder he doesn't want to give pressers. How disrespectful. Or am I mistaken? Please enlighten me

“quit calling people names” always decorum over speaking truth to power, yeah? don’t rock the boat, we wouldn’t want to stand up on behalf of the marginalized and disenfranchised and subjugated!! but i’ll fuck off now, you’re genuinely disgusting.