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David M. Perry
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Journalist & historian. Pub musician. Dad. Husband. Fishing obsessed. I also do dishes. Preorder: #Oathbreakers: tinyurl.com/oathbreakersHC. Subscribe to the Modern Medieval Newsletter: buttondown.email/ModernMedieval
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DMlollardfish.bsky.social

I just did, as an experiment, a google scholar search on an important well-covered topic. It put an undergrad honors thesis as the #1 response. It's fine thesis (on a quick skim), but there are hundreds, thousands, of peer reviewed books and articles on this topic.

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LSleahshaffer.bsky.social

Ugh, I got reliant on it during that window of functionality, and now I gotta beat it with a stick to make it work. Google scholar alert setup janky as hell.

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Aamandabeloved.bsky.social

This is what is driving me mad about Google lately. I don’t want AI junk or something sponsored. Or an undergrad honors thesis as the 1st response! I want the BEST info! I have been spoiled I suppose w/ better searches/search engines working well in the past.

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BAbryandrews.bsky.social

Yeah, I sometimes use Google Scholar for work - it's convenient if a researcher has their own page. Otherwise I use specialised indexes like Web of Science or Scopus. These are paid, but lens.org seems to be a pretty good free alternative.

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BGbhgreeley.bsky.social

What's the incentive for Google Scholar enshittification? Was Scholar ever a profit center for Alphabet, or is it enshittifying through neglect?

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POpamelaoliver.bsky.social

Interesting. My GS searches put highly-cited older things first. Do you sort by date? A field with hundreds of articles is hard to enter with any lit search except a review article. Agree GS does not yield "best" hits, but it is more expansive. I prefer to use multiple search engines.

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TWjdolbow.bsky.social

Yes. I am routinely amazed at how poorly it does in helping me find a particular source article. The various search options by year aren’t terribly helpful either.

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LDlisadiedrich.bsky.social

Google scholar is a mess. I recently looked up Judith Butler's Gender Trouble to see how many citations it has (just for a comparison w/another text) & the book did not come up on the first page. Just checked again & same situation. The book w/ 97194 citations is on page 2.

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Zzwitterion.bsky.social

That's doubly frustrating, because a lot of other scholarly search engines are now also shit. I did a search last year on Scifinder (the major chemistry database) and my first hit was on washing machines. Google Scholar, weirdly, gave me the paper I was looking for.+

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Mksuhistorian.bsky.social

This sucks as an independent environmental historian. Scientists posting articles on social media is great but not a catch all. Harder to stay up to date without Scholer or similar search.

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David M. Perry
@lollardfish.bsky.social
Journalist & historian. Pub musician. Dad. Husband. Fishing obsessed. I also do dishes. Preorder: #Oathbreakers: tinyurl.com/oathbreakersHC. Subscribe to the Modern Medieval Newsletter: buttondown.email/ModernMedieval
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