Yeah it's looking like zen5 has been a complete flop on the domestic pc market. Some up lifts in server. But that's it. Doesn't warrant the on average 100 quid price hike from last generation. Seems to be a generation to skip

Well, the X3D versions have been far too good so the non 3D cache hasn't been that great. Probably time for AMD to just do X3D from the start