and im not even exaggerating there: this is a joke I literally heard when I went to an all-male Catholic highschool, reading it transported me RIGHT back to the toxic wall of axe body spray and ultraconservative maschismo expressed in cracking voices. absolutely wild to see.

which. if you want to express ultraconservative machismo through humour, that has artistic merit! i do think its worthwhile, artistically, to make the reader uncomfortable in all sorts of ways. i kinda love reading that stuff, tbh. but if there's just a maximalism to it, it feels thoughtless.