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RAukverified.bsky.social

One Nation Toryism was pushed aside by Thatcherism and now 'true' Conservativism is emerging in party of the right now that UK Labour have moved their policies onto former Tory lawns?

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JRmilknosugar.bsky.social

Excellent đŸ§”. It is extraordinary that the economic theory underlying Thatcherism, after George Osborne tested it to destruction, & widely discredited by academic economists (I.e. those not employed by banks) even before, is still so accepted politically, that Rachel Reeves has to pay it lip service.

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MEdaveevanschange.bsky.social

One of the many unintended consequences of Thatcherism.

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AShugehammers.bsky.social

Cranking that thatcherism dial even though it's not designed to go any higher

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Sspaceman21.bsky.social

Yes thatcherism the gift that keeps on giving! Worse working class idiots vote for them for more harm to the country as they believe the narrative the Tories are a safe pair of hands!

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Bborners.bsky.social

There's a truth there. But Thatcherism in the 1980's and 2010-24 were both never what they said they were. The state never shrank or really "deregulated" it just offloaded hard choices onto people who didn't vote conservative. That meant zombie sectors in 1980, by 2024 their voters were the zombies.

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CJcjayanetti.bsky.social

Fourteen years ago the Tories pretended that it was 1979 all over again. It wasn't. They eked out a far longer term in office than their record remotely warranted. And 2024 isn't 1974. The country isn't drifting towards the Tories' fundamental worldview - quite the opposite.

The last time the Conservatives returned to power five years after losing it, in 1979, the postwar settlement driven by Labour was falling apart. An energy crisis, International Monetary Fund bailout and mass strikes had exhausted the electorate and left British voters readier for the ideological Conservatism of Thatcherism.

Back then, the world was shifting toward the Tories. Now it’s shifting against them. Workers’ rights and a more statist economic paradigm are the order of the day — and have public support. For 14 years, the Conservatives were given chance after chance by an absurdly patient electorate. They blew it because they were wrong. Eventually they’ll have to confront that. Until they do, they’re lost in the wilderness.
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CJcjayanetti.bsky.social

Then there's the 2008 financial crisis. The reasons for the banking crisis went to the heart of Thatcherism - but as it hit under a Labour government, the politics of it played out very differently:

Then came 2008. The banking crisis was one of deregulated finance capitalism. But in Britain, it struck under a left-leaning government — which had let the country’s finance sector run wild to help fund its public spending — meaning the right-leaning Tory opposition reaped the electoral benefits. Instead of confronting what that meant for free-market economics, it was easier for the Conservatives to pretend this was actually a crisis of public spending and welfare dependency — the latter a particular object of voters’ opprobrium.
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CJcjayanetti.bsky.social

The Tories' ideological cult of Thatcherism, combined with a strategic need to oppose New Labour from the Right, meant the Tories either didn't realise or outright ignored that Blair and Brown sought to pursue their aims within a broadly Thatcherite economic model.

The Blair-Brown governments weren’t “Thatcherite,” but they did work within Thatcher’s overall economic settlement — the aim was to secure the best public services and maximum redistribution as could coexist with the underlying economic principles that Thatcher put in place. Funding for public services increased, but without Old Labour’s “soaking” of the rich. Those public services were often run under the principles of New Public Management, with an emphasis on efficiency, competition and private-sector partnerships. The benefit system was expanded, but mainly in ways that fitted within a “work-first” approach to welfare — in-work benefits were rolled out, but the unemployed were subjected to harsher conditions than before.
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SCsinurata.bsky.social

Worryingly, some of them have clearly lived through Thatcherism. I think they equate "we need to get the welfare bill down" (essentially by supporting people into work) with neoliberalism.

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